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Close but Felt wasn't Deep Throat. Moynihan was Deep Throat. That's the meta-secret at the heart of the CIA's 70-year coup.

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Since Bernstein said it was Felt how did Moynihan get dragged into this scandal? Felt never denied he was "Deep Throat" so was he and Bernstein conspiring to cover-up Pat Moynihan's involvement. If so why??

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I don't know what that means: "How he got dragged in." He didn't get dragged in to the scandal, he set it up. If that were "known" that would obviously change the story from one of evil Nixon to one of sabotage, wouldn't it? As to Bernstein and Woodward and Felt, a quick (by no means inclusive) review of some events: 1976 Woodward says Deep Throat has career in government; felt did not by then. Out of gov't and would be under indictment soon after. Felt would be pardoned in '81 by Reagan. The point of watergate was to overturn detente and have the neo-con revolution, the Reagan revolution. Felt was being fingered as a leaker and as the Deep Throat alternate as earlier as 73, principally by Roswell Gilpatric then of TIME, earlier of Kennedy DoD, instrumental in Diem assassination and start of Vietnam. Watergate was very much a TIME/Post/Harriman (i.e. Moynihan) operation, one side of two-prong attack, the other being fall of sell-out of SE Asia. More: there is no independent corroboration of what Woodward and Bernstein say/nothing in Felt's papers for example that confirm his identity. Note also the artfully titled article in Vanity Fair: "I'm the guy they called Deep Throat." Not I was Deep Throat. I think that's discussed here, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYIkCPVB8uc

See also regarding Bradlee's problems with the Felt naming https://www.commentary.org/articles/james-rosen/bob-woodwards-sins-omission/

BTW, Bradlee had once said that he wondered if you fed data into a computer, including who was in town at such and such date an alleged meeting was to have occurred, could the computer figure it out. Well, that implies Deep Throat was Not in town all the time.

Felt would not have been hanging around outside Nat security council office in 1969 as woodward claims. Moynihan yes. Felt could not have known of WH taping system; Moynihan yes. Indeed it was put into effect as a result of Moynihan's departure from WH in early 71.

Felt never denied this is true, but he never explicitly stated as much either. And he had dementia. I suspect it may have been as a condition of his pardon that e agreed to assume Deep Throat identity to extent he did. I can go on and on. See here https://twitter.com/realmattcloud/status/1652202477901496320

And generally throughout my feed:

https://twitter.com/realmattcloud

Moynihan, in a never published letter, admits to having brought hunt and liddy and plumbers into WH. The bigger secret, which is why Moynihan's involvement had to be covered-up, is because, he was actually ... ready, the CIA-KGB interlocutor for fifty years. That has, well, vast implications and again, would tend to destroy the popular understanding of history of the second half of the 20th century.

https://twitter.com/realmattcloud/status/1646647923021586432

It's a complex story, at first at least, but once the initial conceptual breakthroughs have occurred, everything fits. I hope this has answered you at a basic level but please follow-up with any specific questions.

Cheers.

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Matt Cloud's avatar

And dare I say but there's even a corresponding "proof" if you will, across space and time, encoded into the architecture and geographical placement between DC and Pindar's Corners, NY.

https://twitter.com/realmattcloud/status/1635775254680174592

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Matt Cloud's avatar

Just what could be the implications of THAT?

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